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Unspoken Terms

Nov 19, 2020

Today, Casey and Jackie *The Educator* talk about everything business, influence, and education and how she has found a need to fill at the intersection of the three. They talk about how the Black Christian Influencers organization has taken off in the short couple of years it has been around and how people can get involved. Jackie also shares the ups and downs of her journey as an entrepreneur, common mistakes that she sees influencers making, and how your mindset can make or break your business. This episode is one you do not want to miss!




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Meet our Guest


Jackie Horbrook, also known as @jackietheeducator is a millennial trailblazer from Chicago, Illinois. With a Masters of Education and a Bachelor's degree in Business, she hopes to become known as a Kingdom solutionist. Through her internet show Higher Learning, counseling initiatives in the city of Chicago, and music ministry at her local church she aims to edify the body of Christ anyway she can. Her most recent endeavor has led her to create an organization called Black Christian Influencers that focuses on promoting, supporting, and encouraging kingdom builders from varying career backgrounds. As an ordained minister her primary focus will always be to enhance the kingdom of God using all the gifts God has given her.


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Show Notes


[4:08] – The Interview Begins.


[4:28] – Jackie talks a little about herself and her businesses.


[5:46] – Jackie sheds light on what it means to be a Kingdom Solutionist and how she tries to operate in that space.


[7:22] – Casey asks Jackie to talk about common misconceptions that people have about her being a business woman and Christian.


[9:48] – The ladies get into what BCI is and how it is supporting Christian influencers through exposure and coaching.


[14:08] – Jackie talks about how the communities that are being built in BCI are what makes it unique.


[15:28] – Casey asked Jackie how her passion for education started and how that has shaped everything that she’s doing.


[17:36] – Casey and Jackie talk about how this current endeavor has been different than any previous business or organization that she’s worked with.


[18:44] – Jackie talks about the challenges that came with entrepreneurship and the sacrifices that she made along the way.


[26:06] – Casey asks Jackie about the mindsets that need to be in place for entrepreneurs to be successful.


[30:52] – Jackie talks about some of the things she thought she knew when she got started.


[34:16] – Jackie talks about some of the common missteps that influencers make when they are getting started.


[35:34] – Casey asks how BCI helps their influencers reach their goals and the steps they take to set them up for success.


[38:00] – Jackie shares the things she currently has going on and coming up.


Meet Our Host 


Casey is an entertainment and digital media law attorney who helps influencers and creative entrepreneurs who struggle with navigating the legal side of their businesses and brands, specifically as it relates to contracts. She prides herself on helping creatives negotiate fair deals with Fortune 500 companies and leading entertainment brands, all while helping them build legally sound businesses that are built for generational wealth and impact. Here on the podcast, she normally does that through sharing the stories of successful entrepreneurs and influencers to help you learn from their mistakes. But occasionally, like today, switches things up and highlights popular culture. 




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